Part 107 and contests
#26
All RC fliers are essentially advertising for the industry when they fly on their club field. Is the FAA going to check on every flier to try to see if he's being compensated? lol
From what I've heard, the FAA is very much understaffed and unless something very drastic happens, I don't think we will hear a peep from them. They have much bigger fish to fry than us flying our toys.
At least our fixed wing toys.
From what I've heard, the FAA is very much understaffed and unless something very drastic happens, I don't think we will hear a peep from them. They have much bigger fish to fry than us flying our toys.
At least our fixed wing toys.
#27
All RC fliers are essentially advertising for the industry when they fly on their club field. Is the FAA going to check on every flier to try to see if he's being compensated? lol
From what I've heard, the FAA is very much understaffed and unless something very drastic happens, I don't think we will hear a peep from them. They have much bigger fish to fry than us flying our toys.
At least our fixed wing toys.
From what I've heard, the FAA is very much understaffed and unless something very drastic happens, I don't think we will hear a peep from them. They have much bigger fish to fry than us flying our toys.
At least our fixed wing toys.
And yes, the FAA is understaffed. More so in some places than in others. Do you intend to count on that to stay out of trouble? Kind of like betting on where the cops will be when you decide to fracture the speed limit don't you think?
#28
May I interject here.......
In regards to who's responsible for being 107, it's not the AMA, the CD, the Club, or anyone BUT the pilot who is in control the of aircraft. The FAA will only be involved if THAT pilot is flying for compensation in the event and will deal directly with that pilot.
So if I go and fly at a event that I paid to be in, and although the sponsors are making money at it, as long as I'm flying for recreation, then there is no problem. Now if I get called and asked to fly at the event, and get paid, and what I do this for a living is travel the country demonstrating flying and models, well, that is where the FAA really needs to clarify their stance better, for as of now, it looks like the pilot would need Part 107.
In regards to who's responsible for being 107, it's not the AMA, the CD, the Club, or anyone BUT the pilot who is in control the of aircraft. The FAA will only be involved if THAT pilot is flying for compensation in the event and will deal directly with that pilot.
So if I go and fly at a event that I paid to be in, and although the sponsors are making money at it, as long as I'm flying for recreation, then there is no problem. Now if I get called and asked to fly at the event, and get paid, and what I do this for a living is travel the country demonstrating flying and models, well, that is where the FAA really needs to clarify their stance better, for as of now, it looks like the pilot would need Part 107.
#29
To be honest Hydro, I don't think any of us know one another well at all. We only see a small fraction of what one another is about. I still give benifit of the doubt to most members here you included. Hell if we ever did meet face to face which is a possibility now that we are 3 hours distance I would think I would offer to buy you a beer. That being said I have no more understanding for another members attitude. He is digging himself a hole and I for one will be happy when it caves in on him.
For someone who has mis-quoted others, and denied it. Told stories about others, and denied. And out right lied about others, and denied it. In spite of proof being posted in these threads....All I can say is, you're one to talk!
And perhaps you should use the word "understanding" as a Noun, not an Adjective.
NOUN
- the ability to understand something; comprehension.
"foreign visitors with little understanding of English"
- sympathetically aware of other people's feelings; tolerant and forgiving.
"people expect their doctor to be understanding.
#30
My Feedback: (29)
I would agree that if you own an R/C related business and attend events in an effort to promote your products then part 107 Could in fact apply. If you happen to be an employee, that gets a bit gray area. When I was an employee of Century Helicopters, I received no additional pay for attending trade shows or fly-ins. My travel and accomidations were picked up but that's all. When I left the company I was requested to give all the companies equipment back so although I was flying it I clearly did not own it. Competitions are recreational for 99% of us. We pay an entry fee that in some cases does not even cover the investment of the hosting club. There are no cash prizes, ( exception to that would be Tucson Shootout ) spectators are not charged admission. There are at times manufacturers banners displayed however the event does not receive compensation for this. It is done for the good will of the hobby.
My question to Appowner is: as a non AMA member, as somone who will never enter any form of competition why are you concerned with this? I'm not saying you can't or that you shouldn't, I'm just curious as to why you decided to make this your boggle of the week.
My question to Appowner is: as a non AMA member, as somone who will never enter any form of competition why are you concerned with this? I'm not saying you can't or that you shouldn't, I'm just curious as to why you decided to make this your boggle of the week.
#31
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My question to Appowner is: as a non AMA member, as somone who will never enter any form of competition why are you concerned with this? I'm not saying you can't or that you shouldn't, I'm just curious as to why you decided to make this your boggle of the week.
My question to Appowner is: as a non AMA member, as somone who will never enter any form of competition why are you concerned with this? I'm not saying you can't or that you shouldn't, I'm just curious as to why you decided to make this your boggle of the week.
#32
My Feedback: (29)
Wow! I'll bet your chest is puffed out almost as much as your ego is right now. Take the high road and declare: "I don't think any of us know one another well at all." Then drop into your judgmental hole again.
For someone who has mis-quoted others, and denied it. Told stories about others, and denied. And out right lied about others, and denied it. In spite of proof being posted in these threads....All I can say is, you're one to talk!
And perhaps you should use the word "understanding" as a Noun, not an Adjective.
NOUN
For someone who has mis-quoted others, and denied it. Told stories about others, and denied. And out right lied about others, and denied it. In spite of proof being posted in these threads....All I can say is, you're one to talk!
And perhaps you should use the word "understanding" as a Noun, not an Adjective.
NOUN
- the ability to understand something; comprehension.
"foreign visitors with little understanding of English"
- sympathetically aware of other people's feelings; tolerant and forgiving.
"people expect their doctor to be understanding.
#34
#37
So let me get this straight. You expect me to answer questions you pose to me? But you don't have to answer questions I pose to you? Even if they're the same questions you asked me?
If true, you're right! It's obvious that your arrogance is exceeded only by your ignorance.
And not responding will be regarded as your agreeing with me.
If true, you're right! It's obvious that your arrogance is exceeded only by your ignorance.
And not responding will be regarded as your agreeing with me.
#39
I don't care to go through life constantly excusing myself and asking forgiveness. I like to know exactly what it is I'm doing and do it correctly from the start. I hold my head high so I can see what's going on and not buried in the sands of paranoia and fear.